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Celebration of Life in Retrospect: Honoring the Visionary LaMonte McLemore, by Robert-Allan Arno

In the 18 years the Forever 5th Dimension blog has continued, so beautifully supported by our shining stars, Marilyn & Billy, Florence and our beloved LaMonte, plus their families and respective management, not to mention the thousands of worldwide special fans who come to visit here each year, we’ve never taken this long a time-out. It’s been a couple of months since LaMonte’s Celebration of Life (he passed away on February 3) and as his biographer and that of The Original 5th Dimension, I sincerely confess to needing some time for personal prayer and meditation.

LaMonte’s Celebration of Life was a private affair, and as such, it takes discernment to decide what is appropriate to share in the most respectfully uplifting way. When we were writing his memoir, a seemingly brief book, “From Hobo Flats to The 5th Dimension: A Life Fulfilled in Baseball, Photography and Music,” we joked that we not only chose small print but trusted that the pages were chock full of a life of achievement from humble beginnings to appearing on the world stages. As much of a raconteur as LaMonte was, and a premier jokester, his main goal was to be inspirational. And all those elements were front and center at the Celebration of Life held on a Sunday in late February in a scenic Las Vegas Country Club setting with over 200 attending.

Our MC was the charming Bubba Knight of Gladys Knight and the Pips. Because LaMonte’s best pal, Harry Elston of The Friends of Distinction had also left us a while earlier, LaMonte’s dedicated wife, Mieko found the right man for the job who was also a star crony of LaMonte’s. Billy Davis, Jr., in his gentle pastoral manner, blessed the proceedings in prayer as one of LaMonte’s favorite recordings by The 5th Dimension, Billy’s solo of “A Change is Gonna Come,” played after. Florence LaRue then stepped forward to sing a live version of “Healing Hands.” You could hear the proverbial pin drop as she emoted so tenderly and emotionally. Marilyn McCoo came to the podium to give an expansive, thoughtful dissertation on LaMonte’s muti-faceted trajectory which highlighted the genuine love the members of The Original 5th Dimension had for one another, sharing, “And at every rehearsal at Mac’s home, delicious food was cooking on the stove.” She moved us with, “He stood elegantly in the background while many of us stepped forward for our solos, but today, it’s LaMonte who’s in the lead.” She went on to talk about the massive media outpouring for LaMonte. Indeed, it was my honor as his biographer along with 5th Dimension legacy manager, Susan Muneo to orchestrate coverage in myriad publications including extensive articles in the New York Times, the Washington Post, Ebony magazine, the Grio, Billboard, the St. Louis Post Dispatch, AP Wire Service, and so many more. There was also compelling coverage on CBS News Sunday Morning and ABC’s Good Morning America. It was a lovely and unexpected moment when Marilyn noted my contributions to LaMonte’s and The 5th Dimension’s legacy, before Bubba called me up to such a warm reception.

LaMonte always schooled me on the secret of giving a good speech. And I’ll share it with you as it helped me prepare my presentation. He taught: “Have a beginning, middle and end, don’t be afraid of using humor, be inspiring but don’t preach, and then get the heck off the stage!” So, before I unveiled LaMonte’s official Celebration of Life 6-minute bio film which I was asked to produce and announce for the event, I acknowledged the millions of worldwide fans of The 5th Dimension and gave a shout-out to some in attendance, Andy, Martha, Loretta and Deniserose. Then I talked about LaMonte’s uncanny ability to see the heart of every person he encountered. And to intrinsically know their gift, to encourage them to fuel it with passion, and that would become their offering to the world. Many including Florence laughed in acknowledgement when I added, “Truly, Mac would not take no for an answer!” in this self-actualizing regard. In fact, I reached out to the crowd for an informal survey, and surely LaMonte had this effect on the majority of attendees, conveyed with knowing “Amens” and applause. And then it was my great pleasure to “say their names,” as I continued, “He did it for the incomparable Billy Davis, Jr., the beautiful Marilyn McCoo, the radiant and lovely Florence LaRue…and let’s not forget the beloved Ron ‘Sweets’ Townson.” More applause. And how nice that Ron’s son Kyle could join us. I also noted that each and every Christmastime, no matter if we were ensconced in a project, LaMonte and Mieko would send a festive gift and a card cutely containing both their handwritten notes. Mac always punctuated his using block print, YOU AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET! about the coming new year. I concluded, “So think about it, if LaMonte could orchestrate so much for each of us on earth, now as an angel from heaven above…well, as he would say, WE AIN’T SEEN NOTHIN’ YET!”

Here’s “The Story of LaMonte McLemore” video that followed. At its conclusion, we all put our hands together for Mac as we sang with faithful joy, “Let the Sunshine In”:

Then LaMonte’s cherished wife, Mieko (pictured left) presented a poignant personal slide show of memories, and his daughter Ciara (pictured right), son Darin, sister Joan, grandson Shane (“L’il Mac”), nephew Donny, niece Melanie, and luminaries like Tony Orlando, Jayne Kennedy, comedian George Wallace, and manager Jason Winters shared heartfelt stories.

Pictured l to r: Florence LaRue, Tony Orlando, Marilyn McCoo, Billy Davis, Jr., Susan Muneo, back: Robert-Allan Arno

On this Memorial Day weekend, we remember LaMonte by, as the song says, “going where he’d want us to go”—to look forward to wondrous new adventures, both personal and 5th Dimension-related. We love you forever, Mac! –Robert-Allan Arno

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America to Africa Higher Education Foundation
Mr. McLemore proudly served on the Board of Directors of AAHEF, supporting educational scholarships for deserving Nigerian college students. Donations in his memory may be made at the Foundation’s website.

Merry 5th-mas Top 10 Playlist with Exclusive Quotes! (Curated by Robert-Allan Arno)

It’s that festive time of year where, for your listening pleasure, we proudly present our FOREVER 5th DIMENSION Top 10 playlist along with an array of exclusive quotes, as we bid you a “Merry 5th-mas!”:

–Here’s our FOREVER 5th DIMENSION production of Marilyn McCoo & Billy Davis, Jr.‘s playfully funky “Jingle Bells.” LaMonte McLemore has stated both in his memoir and exclusively to FOREVER 5th, “One of my biggest regrets was that The 5th Dimension never recorded a Christmas album or even one holiday tune.” Producer Bones Howe shared with me, “Perhaps it was an oversight, but the group was so busy on the road and on TV, that when I got them in the studio, the focus was on getting hits.” In this regard, FOREVER tagged “Jingle Bells” with “Joy to the World”…it’s not the Christmas staple but the 3 Dog Night version, from The 5th’s second network TV special, and fits the holiday mood. Join the “jingle bell joy” here: https://youtu.be/R1DHctms7MI?si=JuBz183ei04AxlV2

–Marilyn & Billy deliver a poignant “Silent Night” as part of their appearance on “The Waltons Homecoming.” Sing along with them here:  https://youtu.be/gBZUhZl5svk

–Billy & Marilyn featuring Soldiers for the Second Coming bring a swingin’ “It Wouldn’t Be Christmas” as they remind us about “the reason for the season,” at this link. And we thank our friends at Rewound Radio, Metromedia Radio, and Boss-Boss Radio, where FOREVER 5th assisted in getting the tune radio airplay: https://youtu.be/kzAzRNaheYA?si=_P1GzYJpnImoFi7B

Florence LaRue released a song which holds great meaning to her, the new holiday standard, “Grownup Christmas List” on limited edition CD in the 90’s. Here she passionately delivers it live on West Coast Praze:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cj1g-RkVks

–Marilyn’s recording of “Oh Holy Night” from her WHITE CHRISTMAS album is a major fan favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXq_BErKL1Q

–Here’s Florence and The 5th Dimension with an acapella “Winter Wonderland.” Cleverly recorded during the pandemic, it provided much needed uplift and hope to fans: https://youtu.be/j7kY9Tot6eU?si=Lt2IqwYXwPPNeq8c

–Marilyn shared with FOREVER 5th DIMENSION: “This performance of ‘Sweet Little Jesus Boy’ with a grand choir in Washington, DC was a cherished moment.” Watch here:
https://youtu.be/S9xNbCT0Cyc

–Marilyn & Bily were thrilled to perform with Jazz legend Mel Torme on his PBS special. With a laugh, Marilyn shared exclusively with FOREVER 5th, “Billy and I wanted to be perfect for Mel and show him what these former members of The 5th Dimension could do with our harmonies!” Billy added, “We practiced at home at the piano beforehand, and we showed him…he loved us…and we loved him!”:

a. “Jingle Bells,” McCoo/Davis/Torme:  https://youtu.be/Z-c8QPROsJc

b. “Sleigh Ride,” McCoo/Davis:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzg66UYG1ZE

Dick Clark presents Marilyn & Billy’s soulful Christmas Medley from ’78:

FOREVER 5th DIMENSION, now in our 18th year, extends Christmas Cheer, New Year Blessings and a whole lotta love to our favorite stars, Marilyn & Billy, Florence, and LaMonte, and remembering the beloved Ron Townson. And to loyal fans & golden friends the world over, we truly appreciate you.

Robert-Allan Arno

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Remembering Singer-Songwriter Richard Addrisi: His Exclusive Quote About “Never My Love” by The 5th Dimension

Forever 5th Dimension is saddened to belatedly report that Richard Addrisi, the singer-songwriter best known for teaming with his older brother, Don Addrisi, to pen the mega-selling pop standard “Never My Love,” passed away on October 16, at his home in Miami. He was 84.

“The Hollywood Reporter” shared:

While writing songs for other acts and recording at Valiant Records in the 1960s, the Addrisi Brothers also were given the responsibility for discovering new talent, which led to a partnership with The Association. The brothers wrote “Never My Love” for the pop group, who took it to No. 2 on the Hot 100 in October 1967.

The enduring “Never My Love” would go on to enter the Top 15 with versions by The 5th Dimension in 1971 and by the Swedish rock band Blue Swede in 1974. In 1977, the Addrisi Brothers’ version peaked at No. 20 on the Adult Contemporary chart.

Over the years, “Never My Love” has been recorded by more than 300 notable artists. In 1999, BMI stated that “Never My Love” was the No. 2 most-played song of all time in U.S. radio/television history, trailing only “You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling,” made famous by The Righteous Brothers.

Also, of special note for fans of The 5th Dimension is this exclusive quote, enthusiastically given to me by Richard for the liners of “Playlist: The Very Best of The 5th Dimension”:

“What’s better than The 5th Dimension doing your song? If I could catch a voice in mid-air, it would be Marilyn McCoo’s. It’s pure love.”

Fans know that interestingly, our songstress re-visited “Never My Love” on “The Many Faces of Love” project, a McCoo/Davis Jr. treatise on the great love songs, issued over a decade ago.

Robert-Allan Arno

Listen to “Never My Love,” by The 5th Dimension, here:

Listen to the re-visited “Never My Love” by McCoo/Davis, here:

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All Treats: Looking Forward at Forever 5th!

Countdown to Halloween: “Mac (LaMonte) the Visionary” predicts a “treat” of upcoming new surprises from FOREVER 5th DIMENSION, the globally acclaimed blog trusted by the stars of The Original 5th Dimension, now in our 18th year!

Fun Notes: Tunes like “The Riverwitch” (Billy solo), and “Magic in My Life” (Florence solo with lyrics like “make me feel superstitious”), surely fit the mood of October 31st! Then there’s Marilyn‘s favorite solo, “Love’s Lines, Angles and Rhymes” which also has that mystical vibe. The author of the latter, Dorothea Joyce told FOREVER 5th DIMENSION exclusively, “There was no one better to interpret the song’s mystery of love, stream of consciousness feeling than Marilyn!” Robert-Allan Arno

And we begin November with this prestigious event!

@thesherylleeralph and @thedivafoundation are proud to honor the legendary duo Marilyn McCoo & Billy Davis, Jr. at the 35th Annual DIVAS Simply Singing! 🌟

From The 5th Dimension to their timeless love story, Marilyn and Billy have spent decades using their voices to uplift, inspire, and unite generations through music. Their harmony — both onstage and in life — continues to remind us what it means to shine with purpose. ✨

Join us as we honor this dynamic duo with the Legacy of Love Humanitarian Award presented by @aarp for their extraordinary legacy of artistry, love, and philanthropy. 🥂✨

🎶 Saturday, November 1, 2025
📍 Taglyan Complex | Los Angeles
🎟️ divas35.eventbrite.com

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Celebrating the Graceful Soul of Marilyn McCoo on Her Birthday — A Voice, A Light, A Legacy

September 30th always and forever marks a sentimental date among Marilyn McCoo’s millions of global fans. Her beauty, grace, elegance, sensitivity, and signature smile are reflected in her passionate voice—one that has touched generations of admirers.

Personally, as mentors, she and husband Billy Davis, Jr. are discerning voices in my life. Our lengthy phone fellowships alone are treasured moments—not only with two seven-time Grammy winners, but with the dearest of friends.

What is also cherished is Marilyn’s body of work. This year, with the recent loss of my mother, it has been particularly meaningful to curate over forty of Marilyn’s greatest performances. Spanning all age groups and uniting such a diverse audience with her pleasing versatility, Marilyn’s sound was a soothing and compelling presence in my home growing up.

About our special playlist*…

It is so kind of Marilyn and Billy to enjoy and give feedback about these FOREVER 5th DIMENSION compiled playlists. It’s also great fun to switch things up for each occasion, including new finds and reconfiguring the flow of key performances.

In constructing and objectively listening to the sweep of tunes for Marilyn’s birthday—from her 5th Dimension “gloss and torch” solos, to stellar if not Solid Gold TV appearances, with shades of Broadway and the movies in between—it is poignant to wind the festivities to conclusion with songs of powerful inspiration. This feels especially meaningful in these times of uncertainty and needed fortitude.

A true artist, Marilyn once advised me—decades ago, in my very first college radio interview with the duo: “Never rest on your laurels.” She has followed her own sagacity, and her stunning evolution is apparent as we experience the unfurling of this playlist. It represents the best way we can celebrate Marilyn’s essence, and how it has brought Light to our worlds—and still does.

Happy Birthday, Marilyn. We love you. May God’s continued blessings surround you.

Robert-Allan Arno & Global Fans, FOREVER 5th DIMENSION

*Press the player below and enjoy non-stop Marilyn!:

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Memories of Chuck Mangione

Chuck Mangione, the celebrated fluegelhorn-playing jazz musician, has passed away at the age of 84. His music, particularly the iconic track “Feels So Good,” resonated with audiences worldwide, earning him two Grammy Awards and a lasting legacy in jazz. In celebration of his artistry, FOREVER 5th DIMENSION features 2 memorable clips of Chuck with Marilyn McCoo, as they seamlessly duet together, instrumentalist with songstress, first to the heavenly “Chase the Clouds Away” (a personal “Solid Gold” favorite performance of Marilyn’s), and then with Ms. McCoo’s signature, “One Less Bell to Answer.” Their charming rapport, not only musically but as professionals and friends who respected and delighted in each other’s gifts, is something to behold, as we remember the timeless musical joy of Chuck Mangione. —Robert-Allan Arno

Bonus! Enjoy Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr.‘s interpretation of Chuck Mangione’s “Land of Make Believe” from the duo’s summer variety series, a FOREVER 5th DIMENSION video production.

Forever 5th Dimension by Arno, a production of The Soul of The Voice, Ltd., copyright 2008-2025, intellectual property, all rights reserved.

Reflections of Connie Francis, and Songwriter, Alan Bergman

This past week, the music world lost the legendary pop songstress Connie Francis, whose early ’60s hits captured her versatility–one of dynamic prowess, playfulness, and adeptness in interpreting both beloved Italian and Jewish tunes. Connie scored hits co-written by Neil Sedaka, including the bubbly “Stupid Cupid” and the anthemic “Where the Boys Are.” Nearly a decade later, The 5th Dimension found chart success with Sedaka songs, too—“Workin’ on a Groovy Thing” and “Puppet Man.” Our prayers are with Connie’s family, whom she always considered to be her legions of global fans.

We also mourn the passing of Alan Bergman, who—alongside his late wife Marilyn—gave us timeless standards such as “The Way We Were” (with Marvin Hamlisch) and “How Do You Keep the Music Playing” (with Michel Legrand). We remember the prolific magic of the Bergmans, as Marilyn McCoo movingly delivers the former, and Marilyn & Billy (Davis, Jr.) duet on the latter from their album The Many Faces of Love. –Robert-Allan Arno

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Celebrating Billy Davis, Jr. – A Soul Icon, A Gentle Giant, A Friend (Featuring a 30+ Non-Stop, Song Playlist)

Happy Birthday to the incomparable Billy Davis, Jr. One of our finest Soul singers, with a voice that is instantly recognizable, Billy’s gift lies in his ability to turn a ballad into “the movies of his mind.”

As early as THE MAGIC GARDEN album, Billy was a devoted interpreter of the lyric, curious and insistent in knowing composer Jimmy Webb’s vision. In turn, Jimmy has cited Billy as one of his all-time favorite vocalists—a testament to the deep creative connection they share.

Billy can get down with grit as heard on “Feelin’ Alright” and “I’ve Got a Feeling,” reveal the sly groove of the St. Louis Blues, or offer up the tender sweetness of “Misty Roses” and “Summer’s Daughter.” With deep Gospel roots, Billy has also drawn inspiration from the cool crooning of legends like Nat “King” Cole, whose influence on his phrasing and lyricism he’s openly shared.

His beloved wife and musical partner, Marilyn McCoo, once confided that it was Billy who helped shape the cadence of her own signature song, “One Less Bell to Answer.” And when Billy poured his soul into Sam Cooke’s “A Change Is Gonna Come” on The 5th Dimension’s PORTRAIT album, it became a watershed moment in their catalog.

Truly, every Billy solo on those classic 5th albums is an event—whether it’s “The Worst that Could Happen,” “Requiem: 820 Latham,” “Let It Be Me,” “The Singer,” “Leave a Little Room,” or “Speaking with My Heart.”

Or, later in his career, his deeply felt Gospel rendering of “The Love of God,” produced by the legendary Rev. James Cleveland, stands as a powerful inspirational statement from a man whose faith is foundational.

Let’s not forget his seven Grammy Awards—earned both with The 5th Dimension and in duet with Marilyn. The twosome’s hit “You Don’t Have to Be a Star” stands tall as an anthem of unconditional love, just as Billy’s improvised Spiritual flair lit up the quintet’s generation-defining “Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In.”

“What comes from the heart goes to the heart,” Billy says—and our hearts are indeed full when we think of this ever-optimistic gentleman. As a respected Pastor and a musical role model to many, Billy is a beacon of joy, faith, and artistry.

On a personal note, the many interviews we’ve conducted with Billy and Marilyn for FOREVER 5th DIMENSION—or equally meaningful, having them on the line for rich fellowship—are always a dream. To have a hero as both mentor and friend is one of God’s greatest gifts.

And today, as we unite “all the world over,” we celebrate the extraordinary life and legacy of Billy Davis, Jr.

With admiration, gratitude, and love,
Robert-Allan Arno
Biographer, The Original 5th Dimension


🎶 Enjoy our curated FOREVER 5th DIMENSION playlist here, endorsed by #MarilynBilly—we call it “Billy’s Greatest Solos.” The 30+ tunes unwind like the ticking of a fabulous clock, just hit the button for continuous play:

Forever 5th Dimension by Arno, a production of The Soul of The Voice, Ltd., copyright 2008-2025, intellectual property, all rights reserved.

We Wish Legendary Johnny Mathis a Happy Retirement

FOREVER 5th DIMENSION is wishing “The Voice of Romance,” Johnny Mathis, a wonderful retirement. Yesterday, May 18, he took the concert stage for the final time at the Bergen Performing Arts Center in New Jersey concluding an illustrious nearly seven-decade career in extensive live touring and on recording. Mathis released over 70 albums and sold more than 350 million records worldwide

His hits “Wonderful! Wonderful!” and “It’s Not for Me to Say,” catapulted him to fame in the late 50s, followed by the chart-topping “Chances Are.” His 1958 album, “Johnny’s Greatest Hits” spent nearly 500 consecutive weeks on the Billboard charts, according to the Smithsonian. In the late 70’s, his chart-topping soulful hit with Denise Williams, “Too Much, Too Little, Too Late” expanded his reputation as crooner of romantic ballads and beloved Christmas classics.

OUR PERSONAL REFLECTION: A friend to the members of The 5th Dimension, Johnny was a fan. In fact, he went out of his way to issue a quote for the back of LaMonte McLemore’s hit memoir “From Hobo Flats to The 5th Dimension,” which I co-wrote, telling me, “Robert, I took some time…I wanted to get it just right for LaMonte!” He stated, “When a tall, handsome young man came to my house many years ago to photograph me for Elegant magazine, I had no idea that his other job as a singer would propel him and his fellow members of The 5th Dimension to world fame. I am so proud of LaMonte and cherish his friendship.”

“Elegant” was the short-lived but trailblazing first life & style magazine for both Black men and woman, and it was McLemore who created it in the early 60’s. He writes about Mr. Mathis in his memoir, noting the way he’d discuss with Marilyn McCoo, “how someone like Johnny carried on the tradition of Nat King Cole before him, how his smooth groove crossed over, how much we admired that quality of connecting with people through pure class.”

Mac continues, sharing this touching anecdote that makes Johnny’s back-of-the-memoir quote all the more poignant, “And Johnny proved that to me personally when we interviewed and photographed him. While he charmingly accommodated the more established reporters from the Associated Press, he asked Elegant to stay behind. ‘Let me help you guys get off the ground,’ he stated giving extra attention to our fledgling, Black-oriented magazine. He proceeded to not only give a tour of his home but to feed us—Johnny was quite a chef, too. This brotherly act defied the cold reputation of Hollywood.”

(Above: Billy Davis, Jr. having sing-along fun with Johnny Mathis and Diana Ross when The 5th Dimension headlined at the Royal Box, Manhattan)

Mathis who will be 90 on September 30th, shares a birthday with Marilyn McCoo. FOREVER 5th DIMENSION wishes Johnny the many blessings of retirement as we honor the joy he has brought to millions through his musical magic and understated, yet history-making elegance.

–Robert-Allan Arno

Bonus Forever 5th Dimension Fact: Johnny Mathis recorded a number of tunes that were hits for The 5th Dimension including “Up-Up and Away,” “Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In,” “(Last Night) I Didn’t Get to Sleep at All,” and “If I Could Reach You.”

Forever 5th Dimension by Arno, a production of The Soul of The Voice, Ltd., copyright 2008-2025, intellectual property, all rights reserved. Excerpts from “From Hobo Flats to The 5th Dimension,” copyright 2014 McLemore/Arno, all rights reserved.

THE BEST of OUR LOVE: Q & A with John Florez plus a Rare Un-Vaulted Tune, A Forever 5th Dimension Exclusive by Robert-Allan Arno

As FOREVER 5th DIMENSION embarks on its 18th anniversary, the enigmatic “Soul & Inspiration” album by The 5th Dimension has surpassed a 50th anniversary milestone. While “The Magic Garden” and “Earthbound” projects share a certain mystique, the “S & I” sessions remain “mystical” in their own right with the introduction of accomplished producer John Florez (as opposed to the renowned Bones Howe) on four of the cuts, and the shift of the group’s label, Bell Records to Arista, with Clive Davis at the helm. Over a decade ago, we even got to release 6 vaulted Howe-produced tracks from the album, and I was honored to do the “guest liners” for them for the Collector’s Choice “S & I” re-issue. And recently, “Soul & Inspiration” along with those bonuses can be found on Spotify, YouTube and more.

We’re pleased to bring you this exclusive Q & A with John Florez featuring a rare, newly unvaulted tune from “Soul & Inspiration,” produced by him. Known for ear-catching Pop-Soul productions, he began his career in the late 1960’s in Los Angeles. Throughout, one out of every three songs that Mr. Florez produced charted nationally, including the hits, “Grazin’ in the Grass” by The Friends of Distinction (#3), and the #1 Billboard hit, “Rock the Boat” by The Hues Corporation.  His clients included: A&M, Arista, Capitol, CBS, Elektra, RCA, and Warner Brothers Records. 

Robert/FOREVER 5th DIMENSION: LaMonte McLemore, in his memoir “From Hobo Flats to The 5th Dimension,” says his biggest regret about The Original 5th Dimension recording legacy is that a true danceable tune was never produced. You had tremendous success producing The Hues Corporation’s vibrant “Rock the Boat” which is deemed the first Disco tune to hit the Top 10. Many “5th fans,” too, wanted that evolution for the group. Do you feel you were recruited for the “Soul & Inspiration” project (replacing the familiar Bones Howe, whose cuts were still featured on the album) to somehow bring such contemporary success.  

John: Maybe. Who knows what occurred in the mind of Clive Davis (who hired me)? The music business is based on how hot you are with producing hits at that time. Yes, I was coming off the #1 dance tune, “Rock the Boat”. When I pitched Clive to produce The 5th Dimension, I brought the songs we eventually recorded. He liked them and set up a meeting for me with The 5th. ALL of us instinctively knew it was time to try something new. I was only commissioned for four tracks. In retrospect, had we decided to find a disco-oriented tune, my question is, which of the agreed upon tunes would we have discarded to allow for such a track. None! The group and I did what they had always done, finding the best songs available at the time. If Clive had given me an added 3-4 track contract, yes, we certainly could’ve looked for a dance cut. In the end, I believe we achieved our initial goal, to try something different.

Robert/FOREVER 5th DIMENSION: In an earlier interview with FOREVER 5th DIMENSION, you mentioned being involved in the group’s rehearsal of “I Honestly Love You,” written by Peter Allen, with Marilyn McCoo in the lead. Can you give us a flavor of the rehearsals and remind us of how Olivia Newton-John walked away with the recording. 

John: Yes, my arranger D’Arneill Pershing and I had chills hearing Marilyn’s captivating lead on “I Honestly Love You” and remember distinctly how lovely the group sounded in unison on their echo line, “shouldn’t blow the chance.” This really sounded like a hit single for us. However, Olivia had already recorded the song for her yet-to-be-released album and had an exclusive on it. In other words, she had “first dibs” if she released it for her upcoming single. If not, we would have gotten the green light to record it with The 5th Dimension. Unfortunately for us, she did choose the ballad as her single.

Editor’s Note: Hear a taste of Marilyn’s version of “I Honestly Love You” in this hits medley with Peter Allen from SOLID GOLD, here: https://youtu.be/jghihoox7G8?si=oz5ZnyVSnzRBatAg

Robert/FOREVER 5th DIMENSION: “Harlem” remains such a curiously controversial song for its break from more traditional 5th sounds. Nevertheless, it was exhilarating, funky and panoramic, and certainly made for a sassy staged party skit often featured at the beginning of concerts circa ’74, of The Original 5th Dimension, including their performances at the Uris Theater on Broadway. Do you think in retrospect, that it was a mistake to release it as a single? 

John: Absolutely. If Black radio had discovered it on the album, played it, and it became popular, then Bell/Arista could’ve considered it for single release. I doubt that would’ve ever happened. It was too much of a departure from the group’s long-established image. However, damn it, it’s a great cut. The group and drummer James Gadsen really kicked. Controversial or not, The 5th Dimension had finally recorded something far less vanilla. I stand by that track and am proud of all of us, including the under-appreciated D’Arneill Pershing and his cinematic string chart. By the way, regarding your first question, “Harlem” is a dance tune, although not Disco, per se.

Editor’s Note: Interestingly, in this newly found memo from Bell Records, “Harlem” was introduced in New York City discos, pre-single release:

Robert/FOREVER 5th DIMENSION: “No Love in the Room” had hit written all over it. A Disco-tinged undertone, a contemporary familial message, cool group dynamics with a mini solo by Billy Davis, Jr. and with Marilyn leading. We know there were politics involved in the single’s ultimate lack of promotion. But if not for that, how far do you think “No Love” would have climbed? 

John: No promotion? Ya think? How about no record label deal whatsoever while it was still charting?  Due to tensions and misunderstandings with Clive Davis (Editor’s note: that have since been resolved between Mr. Davis and The 5th Dimension/McCoo & Davis, Jr.), he dropped the group from Arista, pulled their album and the single from stores and radio, just as it was climbing the Billboard Hot 100 chart with “bullets!” I have no idea how high the single would have charted, but I do believe that it was a solid hit. Top twenty? Obviously it should have been our first release instead of “Harlem.”

Robert/FOREVER 5th DIMENSION: Fans do like “The Best of My Love.” It’s certainly a different take on the Eagles’ hit. They particularly enjoy a breezy and lilting Marilyn amid the slightly syncopated beat, with pretty group harmonies. You’ve mentioned in our previous FOREVER 5th DIMENSION Q & A that it is not one of your favorites. Isn’t it interesting to juxtapose fan approval with your feeling that “it could have been better.” 

John: You try going from rehearsing “I Honestly Love You” with Marilyn McCoo to doing an Eagles’ cover of “The Best of My Love.”  No comparison. Not even close. I had goose bumps rehearsing the former to, “Oh well, Clive wants us to do this one” for the latter.  

EXCLUSIVE ALTERNATIVE VERSION, “THE BEST OF MY LOVE” FROM THE VAULTS

Robert’s note: After our interview, John surprised me with a from-the-vaults/his personal unmastered copy, alternative version of “Best” with Billy and Marilyn trading leads akin to what they did on “What Does It Take to Win Your Love” from the “Love’s Line’s Angles and Rhymes” album including the group vibe more in the forefront. I did some remastering and present it to our faithful 5th Dimension fans & FOREVER 5th readers, at this private YouTube link…enjoy:

Robert/FOREVER 5th DIMENSION: “Crazy Spaces” was performed in concert by The 5th and then recorded for the “S & I” project but remains missing. Do you recall why it wasn’t included, or anything about the feel of the tune that you produced, it’s a Bill Withers composition. I asked Marilyn & Billy, and Marilyn remembered it fondly, even sung a bit of it for me. 

John: This is a GREAT question. Nobody knows this but “Crazy Spaces” was our “bookend to Harlem” track. Both were Bill Withers songs with drummer James Gadsen and that funky rhythm section.  Why it wasn’t included for an album with “Soul” in its title is beyond me. What happened to the original track? I apparently had the only copy of it in two places: on a master cassette tape and on my former PC hard drive. The hard drive got accidentally wiped and the cassette tape somehow vanished into the ethers. This one breaks my heart.

Robert/FOREVER 5th DIMENSION: “Hard Core Poetry” is one of Florence LaRue’s favorites from the “S & I” project, Billy commented to FOREVER 5th DIMENSION he liked collaborating with you on it, too. Along with the album cuts “Black Patch” (from “Individually and Collectively”), “Day by Day” (from “Living Together, Growing Together”), and “Moonlight Mile” (from “Earthbound”), it stands as one of the original group’s finest recorded LP moments. On behalf of the fans, we thank you for that. Can you tell us your thoughts about “Poetry,” written by the team of Lambert & Potter

John: Harvey Cooper, the award-winning record promotion executive, brought us “Hard Core Poetry” and “Harlem”. He always had great “ears.” I had been a big Lambert and Potter fan. Previously, I recorded their tunes “I Just Wanna Be Me” with Sisters Love (A&M, 1970) and “Like Monday Follows Sunday” with 5 Flights Up (Talent Associates, 1970). Notice that “Hard Core Poetry,” “No Love in The Room” and “Harlem” are all socially relevant tunes – an intentional departure. “Hard Core Poetry” also features “step out lines”: Marilyn first, Florence second, and then Billy.

Editor’s note: Listen to John’s new remix of “Hard Core Poetry” on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/7xCETRhKtTU

Robert/FOREVER 5th DIMENSION: John, you obviously have great affinity for your time with The 5th Dimension, they were certainly known as the pinnacle of Pop-Soul if not all singing groups and its individual members, too, were household names. As noted, you’ve remastered the tunes you were involved with and shared some on YouTube. What draws you back to revisiting these gems? 

John: When RCA interviewed me for a staff position in 1968, they asked me what kind of music I wanted to produce. I answered, “Something like The 5th Dimension!” That led me to produce The Friends of Distinction, The Hues Corporation, and more. I was living my dream! Later, being offered a chance to produce my favorite act of all, The 5th Dimension, was the rest of my dream come true! It’s my hobby to re-master all the songs I was involved with and bring them to the public in a refreshed way.

The 5th Dimension members were all consummate pros, and I will never forget the experience of working with each of them—Marilyn: Classy, a lady. Billy: Amazingly soulful and professional. Florence: Brains and beauty combined. LaMonte: Elegant and multi-talented. Ron (Townson): Very much fun to be with! He was full of good-natured mischief like when he pulled out a switchblade during rehearsal to clean his nails!

Robert/FOREVER 5th DIMENSION: How do you feel about the “Soul & Inspiration” project’s longevity and continued fan interest. 

John: I’m proud of everyone involved with it. The major regret was not getting the chance to do a second album with The 5th Dimension. We were still learning how to work together, we had not yet reached our full potential. The 5th Dimension was adamant with me about not layering their vocals as was done previously, keeping the group blend more organic We did “sweeten” the end of choruses on “Hard Core Poetry” and the group on “The Best of My Love.” I really wanted to experiment more with new directions for us. I felt we were just getting started.

Very special thanks to John Florez who has been a friend to FOREVER 5th DIMENSION for many years. And our love to Marilyn & Billy, Florence and LaMonte.

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